Comments on: The Need for Starting Churches http://russbutcher.com/the-need-for-starting-churches/ A churchplanter's missional influence in the lives of those "least likely to go to church". Fri, 28 Oct 2011 01:37:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Russ http://russbutcher.com/the-need-for-starting-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-2895 Russ Thu, 06 Mar 2008 20:21:50 +0000 http://russbutcher.com/the-need-for-starting-churches/#comment-2895 Hey Shane, What is amazing is that I had ordered this book and received it in the mail yesterday, the same day you comment and post on my blog. Maybe that is confirmation that God wants me to read it. I have had several friends recommend it and I know that we have to be willing to rethink church here in America. it is not about growth strategy, but about simply being missional with Jesus. I miss seeing you. I hope you are doing ok. Russ Hey Shane,

What is amazing is that I had ordered this book and received it in the mail yesterday, the same day you comment and post on my blog. Maybe that is confirmation that God wants me to read it. I have had several friends recommend it and I know that we have to be willing to rethink church here in America. it is not about growth strategy, but about simply being missional with Jesus. I miss seeing you. I hope you are doing ok.

Russ

]]> By: Shane Smith http://russbutcher.com/the-need-for-starting-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-2894 Shane Smith Thu, 06 Mar 2008 04:29:40 +0000 http://russbutcher.com/the-need-for-starting-churches/#comment-2894 This reminds me of a book I've been reading lately called <a href="http://www.theforgottenways.org" rel="nofollow">The Forgotten Ways</a>, by Alan Hirsch. Did you read that one? I don't have many people to talk to about it. He suggests that we completely re-think how we approach church. Based on the decline of the church in America for the past 40 years, he says that modern "church growth" strategies do not work, and that we need to learn from the models of the early NT church and the underground Chinese church. He says that institutionalism killed the church in the UK, helping to create a <i>post-Christian</i> culture, and that we're headed there soon. So he calls for some pretty radical methods to reverse this trend.... etc. Anyway.... I hope to talk to you soon! This reminds me of a book I’ve been reading lately called The Forgotten Ways, by Alan Hirsch.

Did you read that one? I don’t have many people to talk to about it.

He suggests that we completely re-think how we approach church. Based on the decline of the church in America for the past 40 years, he says that modern “church growth” strategies do not work, and that we need to learn from the models of the early NT church and the underground Chinese church.

He says that institutionalism killed the church in the UK, helping to create a post-Christian culture, and that we’re headed there soon. So he calls for some pretty radical methods to reverse this trend…. etc. Anyway…. I hope to talk to you soon!

]]> By: Brian http://russbutcher.com/the-need-for-starting-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-2874 Brian Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:56:14 +0000 http://russbutcher.com/the-need-for-starting-churches/#comment-2874 good post...church planters rock! usually they "get it" and are reaching people for Jesus! i know you guys need help though...maybe i'll join the club one day! good post…church planters rock! usually they “get it” and are reaching people for Jesus! i know you guys need help though…maybe i’ll join the club one day!

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